Writing Is An Uphill Battle (Thank Goodness)

Originally posted on Writers In The Storm

I blame it on a lunch date. Or maybe I should say I owe it to a lunch date. Yes, my entire writing career is predicated on the fact that I met someone for lunch whom I’d never met before. I don’t remember his name, or what he looked like. I never saw him again.

Good thing you don’t pay royalties on inspiration.

During our pleasant midday conversation in an Irish pub, the first conversation since exchanging a few emails, my lunch companion mentioned that my email voice was “very well-suited to blogging.”

I thanked him.

Then, I went home and Yahoo-searched “blogging.” This was 2005, after all, and I unceremoniously entered the blogosphere.

After a few months of fervent blog reading and following and commenting, I started my own blog in early 2006. It had a polka-dot background and nary a reader. In my first-ever blog post I thanked Lunch Date Guy for setting me on a journey whose destination was unknown, and noted how that didn’t matter. What mattered was that I’d begun. I couldn’t have imagined where it would lead. Had someone told me, they’d have gotten a head slap.

I am big believer in momentum, that going downhill means you’re picking up speed and getting stronger, readying you for the climb.

My early blog where I wrote anonymously about being a single mom, dating, and life (like the main character in THE GOOD NEIGHBOR–coincidence?), led me to writing essays for photocopied ezines, and then for newspapers and online publications. My essays led me to attempt a memoir (because whose life isn’t worthy of 300 pages?), which led me to try fiction, which led to a book deal. Which led me to start a new blog about the kind of fiction I loved and was writing.

My full circle has a point. It doesn’t matter where or how you start. It doesn’t even matter WHERE you go. It just matters THAT you go, that you keep moving, that the momentum in your writing life mimic the momentum you admire or strive for.

Even as a brand new blogger in 2006, I always wrote, rewrote, and edited my blog posts. They became writing exercises, stretching muscles I’d not used in years. I read many blogs daily in those days before quick life updates on Facebook and Twitter, and dreamed about having comments on my posts. And I got them eventually, and a solid following of bloggers and blog-readers. Some of whom now read my novels.

I learned from my lunch date that we don’t find our inspiration, we choose it.

We choose to look up blogging and take a chance on something new. We choose to use our observations about the blue sky to write an essay or a poem. We choose to tell a story that makes us laugh because we want others to laugh. We choose to spend a year, or two, or six, writing a book.  Maybe writers are compelled to write, but we choose to do it. How many people have you met who say they want to write a book? My answer is always the same. “You should.” And I mean it. If you want to write a book, you should write it. Without a degree, without classes, without feedback. You have to start going if you want to go somewhere, anywhere. (I’m not suggesting that this is a good idea forever, that craft isn’t important, that knowledge isn’t king (or queen)).

I don’t mean you can always decide what you want to write about but you can choose to embrace the inspiration that is presented to you, to cultivate the ideas that rattle around in your head, to embrace curiosity without hesitation, and to move forward despite uncertainty and fear.

And if you get lunch out of it, all the better.

Amy xo

The Difference Between Literary, Upmarket, & Commercial Fiction (an infographic not made by me)

I have no infographic skills, but Carly Watters does. Writers ask me all the time to explain genre differences, and I do. Carly does it better. 

You’re welcome. (Now you can go thank Carly by clicking here.)

So tell me — is this what you thought? And if you’re being honest, where does your book fit (not where do you want it to fit — although maybe that’s a fair question as well, because then, go write it that way.)

Amy xo

Guest Post: Author Bette Lee Crosby Says “Write Where You Are.”

WHR - Ebook SmallWe’ve all heard it before. Write what you know. I’m not sure that always means what we think (a post for another day) but today, USA Today bestselling author Bette Lee Crosby puts her own spin on things with Write Where You Are. She was unintentionally inspired to write her new book, What the Heart Remembers, Book Three in the Memory House Series during a trip to Paris. 

How do you take advantage of where you are? And when was the last time you were unintentionally inspired?

Please welcome Bette Lee Crosby to WFW!

Amy xo 

Write Where You Are

by Bette Lee Crosby

WHR - Ebook SmallAs a writer I tell everyone else’s story. I am the blind man in the subway, the eleven-year-old boy whose parents have been murdered, and the grandmother who is searching for her missing grandchildren. I am even a woman who can touch her hand to a forgotten object and find the memories that have been left behind. I am all of these people and none of these people. Those were their stories and when I told them I imagined myself living their lives in their worlds. Imagined. Only imagined.

This year something changed. I suppose you could blame it on an atmospheric block that settled over Europe and turned the streets of Paris into blistering boulevards; but I believe it was a heavenly muse simply having a bit of fun.

This all began three years ago when my husband and I were traveling through Europe and spent four wonderful days in Paris. I fell in love with the city and promised myself I would come back. Of course I have also promised myself that I would join a gym, give up chocolate and stop reading until the wee hours of the morning. The Paris promise may have gone the way of those others had fellow author Patricia Sands not enticed me with her tale of home exchanges.

Following her lead, I offered our home in exchange for a place in Paris and voila! It happened. Through the home exchange we got a charming one-bedroom apartment in the center of Paris. The last time we were there I remembered it being quite chilly, so I wisely opted for the three weeks that ran from late June through mid-July. And just to be certain, I packed lots of long-sleeved tops, sweaters, a raincoat and of course, my laptop. Mind you, I had no intention of working. The computer was only so that I could occasionally check my mail or post pictures on Facebook.

The apartment, or flat as Parisians would say, was perfect. It had all the things I’d loved about Paris, including French doors that opened onto a small balcony overlooking Rue Pomme. The first week was exactly as expected, chilly in the mornings with a pleasant splash of sun in the afternoons. Day six the temperature zipped up to almost eighty and I thought, well now, isn’t this wonderful. Day seven the heat wave hit. By day nine it had soared to 104 degrees Fahrenheit.

Have I mentioned there is no air conditioning in Paris? In the winter it is freezing and even on the hottest days of August it is cool enough for a sweater in the morning. Except now it wasn’t. The late afternoons and evenings are when the heat was most oppressive, so we began spending lots of time at that lovely little flat. We would pull the French doors open and turn on the old-fashioned revolving fan to stir up a bit of a breeze.

There is so much to see and do in Paris, so we spent the cooler morning hours exploring the city and in the afternoons and evenings, I snapped open my laptop and wrote.

I began a novel set in Paris. It is the story of a girl who, like me, loves the museums and the cafes and the ironwork balconies. I wrote a love story about the things we did and the places we went. For the first time ever, I actually did live the life of my protagonist…and I loved every minute of it.

As writers we all too often squirrel ourselves away in a small office and explore the world only through the lives of our characters; this year I broadened my horizons. I’ve discovered that I don’t have to create imaginary worlds, there is one out there just waiting for me to step into it. Now, all I have to do is create the characters.

BLCAuthorPhotoUSA Today Bestselling Author and Award-winning novelist Bette Lee Crosby brings the wit and wisdom of her Southern Mama to works of fiction—the result is a delightful blend of humor, mystery and romance along with a cast of quirky charters who will steal your heart away.

“Storytelling is in my blood,” Crosby laughingly admits, “My mom was not a writer, but she was a captivating storyteller, so I find myself using bits and pieces of her voice in most everything I write.”

Crosby’s work was first recognized in 2006 when she received The National League of American Pen Women Award for a then unpublished manuscript. Since then, she has gone on to win another twenty literary awards, including the Royal Palm Literary Award, The Reviewer’s Choice Award, the FPA President’s Book Award Gold Medal and the Reader’s Favorite International Book Award Gold Medal.

Her published novels to date are: Cracks in the Sidewalk (2009), Spare Change (2011), The Twelfth Child (2012), Cupid’s Christmas (2012), What Matters Most (2013), Jubilee’s Journey (2013), Previously Loved Treasures (2014), Blueberry Hill, A Sister’s Story (2014) Passing through Perfect (2015) and Memory House (2015). She also authored “Life in the Land of IS” a memoir of Lani Deauville, a woman the Guinness Book of Records lists as the world’s longest living quadriplegic.

You can find out more about Bette Lee Crosby, here:

Goodreads: http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3222582.Bette_Lee_Crosby

Twitter: https://twitter.com/BetteLeeCrosby

Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Author-Bette-Lee-Crosby/284499021568642

You can find What The Heart Remembers (available for preorder) here:

AMAZON – http://www.amazon.com/What-Heart-Remembers-Memory-Collection-ebook/dp/B017C0FYHE/ref=zg_bsnr_7259437011_33

Barnes & Noble – http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-the-heart-remembers-bette-lee-crosby/1122872871?ean=2940151045094

iBooks – https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/what-the-heart-remembers/id1047698677?mt=11

Kobo – https://store.kobobooks.com/en-us/ebook/what-the-heart-remembers-1

Google Play – https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Bette_Lee_Crosby_What_the_Heart_Remembers?id=5fnTCgAAQBAJ




Writers, Stop Apologizing For Not Being Published

After visiting with friends and family and launching THE GOOD NEIGHBOR in Philadelphia, I headed to the James River Writers Conference in Richmond, Virginia (check it out, no lie, I will shrivel up if they don’t invite me back). I had a ten-minute turnaround after a 5+ hour train ride, and then it was off to the speakers and volunteers welcome party.

I’m like most writers I know, a friendly introvert. So when I walked up to this mansion, with my car mates nearby, all I could think of was HELL NO I HAVE TO MINGLE and WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR WRITERS?

But I prevailed. In situations like these I simply pretend I’m comfortable. I headed toward the crab dip and made a new friend; the bar where I made another. I met people I’d never known and I met people I’ve known for years. (You know how it is with internet friends.) I was social in intimate groupings, and have come to a place where I am also okay, if needed, being on my own in a large group. One good thing about being a writer in a group of writers, if you’re alone and minding your own business, no one thinks you’re antisocial or weird. They just think you’re plotting a chapter or taking notes for an article.

Awake and with lipstick on before 8 am the next morning, I was off to the conference where I’d be on multiple panels for the next two days. And it was off to a helluva start. Friday night to Saturday morning by 9 am I’d met award-winning journalists, multi-published novelists, acclaimed poets, and tenured professors. I was in awe of the level of talent around me, of the accomplishments of these people who also had the word “author” under the name on their badge.

For a moment, I felt small. Intimidated. And very much as if I didn’t belong. I’ve always felt at home in my writer skin and never like an impostor. Until then.

But people started talking, asking, laughing, collaborating — and I realized, there was no where I belonged more. Being completely at home among familiar strangers is really a wonderful thing.

Among this diverse group of working writers, were people who spoke my language before I’d said anything. There were journalists who wished they were novelists and poets who wanted to save the planet. There were professors who were authors and authors who’d written one or twenty books. There were writers of every genre talking and laughing and nodding.

And then, there were the aspiring authors of every kind.

These were the people we were there to serve and inspire.

I spoke to large groups and I spoke one-on-one, and one thing I found these dedicated writers had in common was that when I asked, “What do you write?” their answer almost included…”but I’m not published.” My reply was always the same. “Don’t say it that way.” Truly, folks. Stop it already.

It got me thinking about how writers apologize for where they are or aren’t in their writing journey. No other professions do this. You don’t hear someone say, “I want to be a heart surgeon but I’m not one yet, I am so sorry.” You never hear someone mutter, “I’m working really hard to become an accountant, but I’m not quite there yet. Ugh.”

But writers?

“I write middle grade fantasy. Oh, but I’m not published.”

“I write women’s fiction, but I’m not published or anything.”

“I write historical non-fiction but I’m not ready.”

The tone was always apologetic, the eyes looked away or rolled as if to offset the implied disappointment felt by the writer — perhaps what they imagined I was thinking.

Stop apologizing for not being published. 

These were people who wanted to be published, some who were close (and if you don’t want to be published, that’s fine too, but most of these writers were working toward that goal). Some had agents, many did not. Some were pitching, some were not. Some had books and work piled under their figurative mattresses, some did not. But they were all at a freaking WRITERS CONFERENCE where they belonged because they were with hundreds of other writers, published and not, all connecting and talking and learning things they’d never known before or being reminded of things they’d forgotten or cast aside. I learned so much that weekend simply by being there. Through listening, through talking, answering, and maybe through a little osmosis.

Just because you’re not published doesn’t diminish the value of your writing. Most of us don’t get rich at this stuff, face it. So anyone who’s working his or her ass off (and you know you do that by sitting all the time) deserves to use a period at the end of the declarative sentence that answers the question, WHAT DO YOU WRITE?

I write women’s fiction.

I write middle grade fantasy.

I write essays.

I write political satire

I write poems.

Because that’s what I was asking. WHAT DO YOU WRITE?  And that’s what I wanted to know. There were no assumptions, just curiosity. As a women’s fiction author, blogger, reader, and devotee, I’m usually surrounded by women’s fiction writers who are usually women. Here I was at a writer’s conference with men! With poets! With romance writers! With journalists! (I’m not even mentioning the racial and ethnic diversity, that’s another post.) Here I was, rubbing shoulders with people who wanted to talk about the pitfalls of publishing even though they had seventeen published novels; people who wanted to talk about plots, networking, technology, querying, character arcs, research, and anything else closely or remotely related to writing and publishing — big publishing, small publishing, self-publishing — whether or not they had a byline or book credit. This was a group of people dedicated to the idea that words matter, and that getting those words to the public, matters.

There was no bickering that your publishing is better than my publishing. There was no fighting that your genre is better than mine.

There was a sincere generosity of spirit, a sharing of information, and a seriously awesome vibe.

And no apologies necessary.


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Author Patti Callahan Henry Interviews Amy Sue Nathan About THE GOOD NEIGHBOR

thegoodneighbor_mockup1It’s publication day for my second novel, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR, and today, multi-published, New York Times bestselling women’s fiction author, my friend Patti Callahan Henry is flipping us all upside down and interviewing me on my own blog! (Eleanor Brown interviewed me for THE GLASS WIVES. Am I lucky, or what?) 

I hope that after continuing on this journey with me that you’ll take a chance on THE GOOD NEIGHBOR and that you’ll encourage all your family, friends, and neighbors to do the same! 

Amy xo

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Author Patti Callahan Henry Interviews Amy Sue Nathan About THE GOOD NEIGHBOR

thegoodneighbor_mockup1Patti: As a writer, I am always fascinated about the inspiration behind a story. You know, the real story behind the story. Can you tell us how this book started? What made you say “Now, this is a story I want to tell.”

Amy: Believe it or not, it all started with the 1945 movie, Christmas in Connecticut. My friend Christina Gombar encouraged me to watch it, knowing my penchant for romantic comedies and old movies. She also suggested it was a modern story cloaked in a black and white, war-era film. And she was right! In Christmas in Connecticut, Barbara Stanwyck plays Elizabeth Lane (I totally named Izzy after her, and you’ll see why)who is a popular columnist at a New York women’s magazine (remember those?). She shares recipes, household tips, and pontificates on her Connecticut farmhouse life with her husband and baby. Sounds great, right? It would be if any of it were true. This Elizabeth Lane is a single woman who lives in New York and can’t even boil a pot of water.  One day, Elisabeth’s publishers asks (demands) she invite a huge fan and injured soldier to her home — her Connecticut farmhouse home — for Christmas. Elisabeth has just days to find a house, a husband, and a baby. Mayhem ensues.

What struck me about this hilarious movie was the potential for a modern twist, the what-if this happened now. Then I realized, as a blogger since 2006, how I’d really laid everything on the line and was honest. What if I hadn’t. What if I’d made up everything I shared when I was “mommy blogging” back in the day? What if I did that now? (I don’t. I’m an open book, forgive the pun.)

The thoughts of what’s shareable and what’s not came to mind right away. Is there a difference between a lie and a secret? How about privacy? Does that come into play? We all love the internet but it can really get it into trouble. How would someone get out of that kind of trouble?

That’s when my Elizabeth “Izzy” Lane was born.

I also yearned to write a story set in a Northeast Philadelphia neighborhood like the one I grew up in, without having it set in the sixties or seventies. Thanks to fiction, I had the pleasure of inventing a neighborhood like mine that was right for Izzy right now.

Patti: Izzy is so witty, so full of ideas and fun (even as she ‘lies’ in her blog). And you are so funny and witty, so full of ideas and fun. How much of you is in Izzy? And if any of you hides in Izzy, was it on purpose or did you only see it in hindsight?

Amy: You are very generous, Patti. Thank you! When I started writing The Good Neighbor I was actually relieved there was such a distance between me and Izzy. I knew enough about her to write her, but it wasn’t so close that I had to remind myself it was fiction. I never got the two of us confused. Then one day I was saying as much to a friend who has known me for about 24 years — how Izzy is a decade or more younger than I am, how her experiences don’t mirror mine at all, and how much of a relief that was to be in a different place in life than a main character. Then this happened:

“So Izzy doesn’t have any of your experiences?”
“Nope. Not really. And she’s a lot younger than I am.”
“How old is Izzy in the book?”
“And she just got divorced?”
“Uh huh.”
“How old were you when you got divorced?”
I hesitated. Then said: “Shut up.”

So to answer your question, Patti? Hindsight.

Patti: What was the biggest surprise when you were writing this book? Often, I find that just when I think I have a hold of the story, it gets a hold of me and BAM, surprise. Did this happen to you at all?

Amy: It always happens to me and I love that. Someone comes around a corner you didn’t expect and everything changes. It’s hard to explain that phenomenon of the characters taking over the story to non-writers, but it totally exists! In The Good Neighbor I was totally shocked at things surrounding Mrs. Feldman (can’t say what, because spoiler alert). She told me her part of the story. I was merely the scribe.

Patti: Mrs. Feldman is a voice of wisdom and advice, a woman we all wish we knew. Do you have someone like this in your life? Was Mrs. Feldman based on anyone you knew?

Amy: Mrs. Feldman wasn’t based on anyone, and honestly, I’m not sure where she came from. I grew up with wonderful neighbors, had two grandmothers (one until I was 14 and one until I was 40), and some teachers I admired. I guess Mrs. Feldman has tidbits of all of them but it wasn’t intentional, I mean, that makes sense, right? She also has things about her that I can’t attribute to anyone else but her. She’s her own woman for sure (and I think she’d agree).

Patti: What is next for your beautiful storytelling voice?

Amy: <3 I’m steeped in writing my third novel right now, about a woman named Teddi Lerner who, after six years, goes back to the hometown she abandoned during her best friend’s funeral. Needless to say, Teddi’s got a lot of explaining to do to a lot of people.

Thank you for to all my WFW blog readers!

You are a huge source of support (yes, even when you’re lurking)!

Click here for ways to purchase the book. Also available at your local Barnes & Noble, Walmart, Sam’s Club, and BJ’s! If you see TGN out in the wild, take a photo and share it with me!

Booklist Calls THE GOOD NEIGHBOR “Humorous Women’s Fiction That Explores Deeper Themes”

Yesterday I had a plumber at my house for seven hours. Oh, I lie. I had three plumbers at my house for seven hours. But today, The Good Neighbor has this review from Booklist, which is proof that at least right now, in this moment, the universe is on my side.

Amy xo

Booklist says:

“Recently divorced mom Izzy Lane decides to spice things up by inventing a boyfriend and writing about him on her blog, a little white lie of no real consequence since her blog only has few readers. Then her media-maven BFF, Jade, offers Izzy the opportunity to blog for Pop Philly, a local entertainment website, and Izzy’s fake relationship captivates an international audience. Only her elderly neighbor knows the truth, and soon everyone else is clamoring to meet “Mac,” her truly too-good-to-be-true suitor. As her lie spirals out of control, Izzy is forced to face the reasons why she’s so dissatisfied with her real life. Nathan’s latest swings unexpectedly from lighthearted romantic comedy to a serious examination of honesty and friendship. Izzy and her friends sense that they’re getting older and need to take life seriously but hesitate to let go of their youth, a problem typical of middle-class Gen Xers. Nathan also touches on elder care and single motherhood. A tale for readers who enjoy humorous women’s fiction that explores deeper themes.” — Nanette Donohue

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Want to see what I looked like in 1998? (You’ve been warned!) Click here!


10 Literary Agents Seeking Women’s Fiction NOW & 8 Query Tips by Chuck Sambuchino

three coversI’m asked all the time how I found my agent and where on earth did I find the 126 agents I queried before I signed with my first agent in 2010. Well. I not only used the internet, but I also used a good old-fashioned book. But to help you get started, or to help you fill in some gaps, today we have Chuck Sambuchino who not only offers 8 Tips For Writing Queries but 10 Literary Agents Seeking Women’s Fiction NOW. If you’re not quite ready, jot down these names and check them out when your manuscript is polished and primed. And don’t forget all the resources mentioned in Chuck’s bio below!

This is one of the most fun posts I’ve offered in four and a half years! Chuck put together the list to celebrate the release of 3 new books this month, the 2016 Guide to Literary Agents, the 2016 Children’s Writer’s & Illustrator’s Market, and his anti-clown humor book When Clowns Attack: A Survival Guide.

Amy xo

(Sorry for the wonky photo formatting, I’ve reached my “figure out a way to fix it” limit. Photos are above the agent info!)

10 Literary Agents Seeking Women’s Fiction NOW

_ Chuckby Chuck Sambuchino

As the editor of the 2016 Guide to Literary Agents, it’s my job to compile oodles of markets for kidlit writers and illustrators. But the truth is that not every market listed everywhere is 100% open—it’s not that simple. Sometimes a few agents at any agency are open to signing new writers, whereas others are not. Sometimes a publisher or agent closes themselves down to submissions for a while. With all these ins and outs, what’s a writer to do?

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It’s with all this in mind that I wanted to spotlight 10 literary agents who are actively seeking women’s fiction submissions now. Their e-mails are below. Query away. All of these agents listed below personally confirmed to me that they are seeking clients and open to submissions as of October 2015.

Good luck querying! If you want to see many, many more markets for writers of all children’s books, seek out the new & updated 2016 Guide to Literary Agents.


1. Scott Eagan

Greyhaus Literary


How to contact: E-query scott@greyhausagency.com with “Query” in the subject line. Keep the word count between 75,000 and 110,000. “Please focus on one issue and not a ton of personal problems the protagonist has. Stories can have happy or sad endings. Please no adultery.”


2. MacKenzie Fraser-Bub

Trident Media Group


How to contact: Send a query letter, pasted in the body of the email, to MFraserBub@TridentMediaGroup.com. Please do not send a manuscript or proposal until you have been requested to do so.


3. Kimberly Brower

Rebecca Friedman Literary


How to contact: E-query Kimberly@rfliterary.com. Submit a brief query letter and your first chapter (pasted into the email, not to exceed fifteen double-spaced pages). No attachments.


4. Mallory C. Brown



How to contact: E-query Mallory@triadaus.com. When querying, please include the first ten ms pages in the body of the e-mail after your query.


5. Danielle Burby

HSG Agency


How to contact: Email a query letter and the first five pages of your manuscript to dburby@hsgagency.com. No attachments.


6. Jennifer Johnson-Blalock

Liza Dawson Associates


How to contact: E-mail queryjennifer@lizadawsonassociates.com.


7. Marie Lamba

Jennifer De Chiara Literary


How to contact: Please email a query to marie.jdlit@gmail.com. Put “Query” in the subject line of your email, and please send the first twenty pages in the body of your email, along with a one-paragraph bio and a one-paragraph synopsis.


8. Carly Watters

P.S. Literary


How to contact: E-query query@psliterary.com with “Query for Carly” in the subject line. “Do not send attachments. Always let us know if your manuscript/proposal is currently under consideration by other agents/publishers. If you don’t receive a response to your query within 4-6 weeks it means a no from the agency. In my women’s fiction, I look for an external hook other than the love story (career, family, personal history etc.)”


9. Patricia Nelson

Marsal Lyon Literary Agency


How to contact: E-query Patricia@MarsalLyonLiteraryAgency.com.

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10. Courtney Miller-Callihan

Sanford J. Greenburger Associates


How to contact: E-query cmiller@sjga.com.


_ ChuckChuck Sambuchino (@chucksambuchino) of Writer’s Digest Books edits the GUIDE TO LITERARY AGENTS and the CHILDREN’S WRITER’S & ILLUSTRATOR’S MARKET. His Guide to Literary Agents Blog is one of the largest blogs in publishing. His 2010 humor book, HOW TO SURVIVE A GARDEN GNOME ATTACK, was optioned by Sony Pictures. His latest humor book, WHEN CLOWNS ATTACK: A SURVIVAL GUIDE (Sept. 29 2015), will protect people everywhere from malicious bozos and jokers who haunt our lives. His books have been mentioned in Reader’s Digest, USA Today, the New York Times, The Huffington Post, Variety, New York Magazine, and more.

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